Claudia Winkleman has scarcely popped up on our Zoom display earlier than launching right into a full-scale apology.
“I’m so sorry about what I appear to be however there’s nothing I can do about it,” she says, grimacing into the digital camera. “I awakened this morning with a pig caught in my head.”
Sorry, you what, Claudia?
“My son turned 10 yesterday and as a birthday deal with he slept in our mattress, and I slept on his piggy teddy,” she explains, proffering a close-up of her cheek to examine for indentation marks.
Being a self-professed “queen of napping”, sleep has all the time been a subject near Claudia’s coronary heart however notably in the present day. In an unusually susceptible second, the Strictly Come Dancing presenter admits she went by means of an actual wobble because of sleep deprivation.
“In lockdown, out of the blue everybody was residence. I wasn’t napping, I used to be jangly and never my regular self,” she explains.
After a couple of months scuffling with this new “frenzied” persona, Claudia discovered solace in a shocking supply – hashish. The authorized, non-intoxicating CBD model, that’s.
She’s now an envoy for Cannaray, the complement model that’s sorted out her shut-eye points. “Till lockdown, I hadn’t even actually heard of CBD,” she says. “Don’t ask me something sciencey as a result of I don’t know, but it surely works for me.”
When she’s not gulping down her CBD capsules with 7 Up (“By no means water. I don’t imagine in ingesting water. ”), Claudia is spending her time presenting her weekend Radio 2 present and having fun with household time in London with husband Kris Thykier and their kids, Jake, 18, Matilda, 15, and Arthur, 10.
She’s eager to benefit from each second earlier than it’s time to throw herself into the frenzy of Strictly alongside her work spouse Tess Daly.
“I’m both sedentary or full throttle,” she says. “I don’t actually do the center. If I’m working, I’ll race round, I’ll orange up, I’ll placed on an eyeliner. I adore it. But when I’m not working, I’m mendacity down.”
Sounds just like the dream life, Claudia…
Forgive us for saying this, however you don’t strike us as somebody into wellness…
I’m not! I’ve no real interest in self-care. I’ve by no means knowingly stroked a crystal. I’ve by no means mentioned, “Guys, I want a little bit of me-time. I’m going to mild a candle and get within the tub.”
But right here we’re, chatting about you and CBD. Why?
In lockdown I wasn’t myself. On a day like in the present day, I can certain off the bed for the college run, all, “Oh, you need eggs with HP? No drawback, babe!” and off we go on the Tube – “Good luck in double science! I really like you a lot!” Then it’s pick-up time, I’m all bouncing, like, “I’m going to make fish fingers! Now let’s do your homework!” And I can do all of that as a result of – and solely as a result of – I’ve napped within the day. As quickly as I get residence, I’ve a lie-down below a coat. Then in lockdown, the youngsters had been residence, I wasn’t napping any extra, there was fixed noise and I felt barely… off.
How did that present itself?
I’m not saying it was dangerous or laborious. I’m not a front-line employee. However I used to be simply extra… annoying, I feel my kids would say. I used to be needling them, “Have you ever finished this? Have you ever finished that?” Youngsters transfer at a unique pace to a frenzied, orange 49-year-old lady. I couldn’t cease being shrill.
Had been you additionally a ratty spouse?
Most likely. I imply, he wouldn’t admit it. He can be foolish to [laughs]. No, I’ve no complaints, we’re very fortunate, however we had been on prime of one another. Having been used to napping all my life and that out of the blue being gone, I used to be a bit, “Oh, what are we going to do right here?”
How did you hit on the answer?
My intelligent, good cousin Sara despatched me these Cannaray CBD capsules to attempt. I might take two each evening and inside every week I felt rather more on a fair keel. I’ve by no means slept prefer it. I do know I appear to be Meat Loaf in the present day, however I sleep brilliantly. It’s not only a nap within the day now, it’s a super-nap. CBD has develop into a part of my regime in the identical means I brush my tooth.
Do you suppose hormones performed a component in the way you had been feeling?
Undoubtedly. I’m positive that I should be perimenopausal and I’ll go to have a full verify, simply due to my age. I used to be checked a few yr in the past and my physician mentioned, “No, not but.” All my buddies are the identical age and simply speaking about it’s nice. Abruptly we’re in a complete new period the place it’s an open dialog and I adore it. I watched Davina’s present on the menopause and skim Mariella Frostrup’s guide, each of which I assumed had been good.
Does this openness make you’re feeling extra prepared for the menopause?
Sure, I don’t really feel daunted, I really feel hungry for data and I’m so grateful to Davina and Mariella who’ve talked about it and finished it so superbly.
Do you suppose you’ll be open to HRT when it occurs?
Completely! Sure! In the best way that I used to be open to CBD oil, I’ll go, “Proper, I’ll give it a go.” I don’t purport to know something so I’ll hearken to people who find themselves smarter than me. So when Davina says, “Don’t be anti HRT,” I simply suppose, “Thanks very a lot.”
Do your children suppose you’re much less annoying now you’ve received your naps again?
I imply, I’m nonetheless embarrassing. As an example, I really like Billie Eilish and, as my husband retains on saying, we’re not supposed to love Billie Eilish, we’re practically 50. However I view embarrassing my kids as my most necessary job.
Absolutely they’re getting their very own again, joking about Mum being on hashish?
[Laughs] No, no, they haven’t. How naive am I? I’m like, “I don’t suppose they know what that’s – they’re of their rooms studying Dickens.” The advert with me on a horse is making them snicker although.
Can we ask when you’ve ever dabbled with the unlawful facet of hashish?
Oh, I really like that query! No! No, I haven’t however ask me once more in 10 years once I’m dwelling on a horse and I’m in a barely completely different mind set. No, I’m essentially the most boring individual on the earth. I might most likely name you up and ask your recommendation whether or not I ought to take Calpol or not. It was not my college expertise in any respect. In my halls, there was numerous beer however there wasn’t hashish, not in my gang of buddies.
Talking of college, your son Jake is about to fly the nest…
It’s big. I virtually can’t speak about it however he must go, proper? I can’t selfishly simply hold him right here however I’m suffocating him, let’s be trustworthy. I simply observe him round.
Do you wish to have one final household vacation collectively this summer time?
I don’t know whether or not we’ll but, however sure, there’s a feeling that we must always. All I actually wish to do is take my children someplace the place there’s no Wi-Fi to allow them to’t go away my clutches. If we may simply play playing cards and board video games then that may be glorious.
Has lockdown made you consider swapping London for all times within the nation?
No!!! Cease these phrases. Lockdown has solely made me love London extra. I really like my neighbours. We’ve lived right here for practically 16 years and we’ll by no means transfer.
Will you be having a great deal of buddies over?
Are you aware what I actually missed in lockdown? Bridge. I play slightly obsessively. For those who mentioned to me, “Claudia, it’s a must to quit all the pieces, however would you want to simply play in bridge tournaments up and down the UK together with your husband,” I’d say, “A stable sure.” I imply, I wouldn’t. I really like my job, however I missed sitting reverse our buddies and simply taking part in bridge, so I’ll do lots of that. And make some fairly dangerous curries. That’s the dream.
Have you ever caught up with Tess but?
We’re having lunch on Friday. I can’t wait. We textual content on a regular basis as a result of we get so excited discovering out who’s going to be participating in Strictly, however I can’t let you know any greater than that.
What’s a Tess and Claudia get-together like? A number of wine?
No, however it’s numerous chips. There will certainly be some type of cheese after which continuous chat for hours. I might like to let you know it’s, “You realize what, I feel I’m going to put on extra black sequins,” but it surely’s by no means that. It’s simply chat about our youngsters.
Do you exit someplace fancy?
I actually suppose we’re going to a Pret after which we’ll convey it again to mine. We’ll go wherever. We’re not fancy. We’ve purchased fish and chips numerous instances collectively alone in Blackpool. We go to the drive-thru McDonald’s collectively which is reverse Elstree Studios and no one bats an eyelid.
How do you’re feeling about with the ability to stand subsequent to one another on TV once more?
Thrilled! As a result of I maintain on to her. She’s my woman. She’s my anchor. So it will be thrilling, however I don’t suppose pinning your coronary heart on something is a good suggestion. If 2020 taught us something, it’s that. Simply the very fact it occurred final yr was a miracle. All people on the present labored so laborious to maintain us on air and if they will try this once more, that may be good.
Rylan Clark-Neal floated the concept of a particular the place presenters took half. We’d like to see you and Tess dance collectively…
No one is seeing me dance. It could be disgusting. Tess is excellent although. That’s why I feel I couldn’t do it to her. However you recognize what, I solely work as a result of I’m obedient – I’ll actually do no matter they are saying.
You’ve taken over from Graham Norton on Saturday mornings on Radio 2 – how are you having fun with that?
I get nervous on a Friday however I get so excited to do it. It’s terrifying, however solely as a result of I’m following Graham. I by no means missed his present. I get nervous, but it surely’s additionally crucial to have some perspective. I’m not stacking cabinets and feeding folks. I’m not a nurse. I realise what I do is totally unimportant. I simply don’t wish to let folks down.
What are the Radio 2 gang prefer to work with?
They’re lovable. Please don’t really feel nauseous, however they’re a household. I really like all of them. Me and Dermot [O’Leary] have a correct snicker on a Saturday morning, despite the fact that we’re so far-off from one another with masks on. He’s very pretty and I’m so obsessed together with his child. I’m similar to, “Present me extra photographs!”
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You’ve received your fiftieth arising in January…
I can’t wait. Who is aware of what we’ll be allowed to do then however I do know I need it to be with family and friends, and there can be the next gadgets – roast potatoes, macaroni cheese, nice music and plenty of laughing.
How are you feeling concerning the milestone?
I can’t wait. I play bridge and my favorite subject of dialog is cover togs. I’ve been ready to be 50 for 50 years. If I’m fortunate sufficient to be alive, I can’t await my sixties and seventies both. It’s not that I want time away however I didn’t love my twenties. My thirties had been superb as a result of it was nearly a child on my boob and my forties have been good – however yeah, 50! Convey it on.
You’ve been within the enterprise for 25 years now…
It’s bonkers! How fortunate am I? If all of it ended tomorrow, I might simply be extremely grateful for what I’ve had. I’ve already far exceeded what I ought to have finished. For those who ask me, “What’s subsequent?” I’m like, “Are you joking?” There isn’t a “subsequent”. It’s been extraordinary already.